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Yvette38
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I hear people say "look at it from their perspective" Can we truly do this? I feel unless you have lived every part of their lives you cannot truly "see/feel" from their perspective. In having empathy with others do you not first search your own experience to see if you can feel some of what they are feeling? I have done this but when I say something like, Oh, I have been through something similar so I can relate in some way, I get back..."Why do you always make everything about you?" If you just listen and nod they assume you don't really care. Some people want answers, some want pity, some want to be coddled, some want you to kick someone's ass for them so they feel better. How do you navigate through friendships and remain true to who you are when everyone wants something different from you? I don't expect anyone to know how I feel, but when one expresses it, is that not what one is looking for, someone that understands?
-------------------- Sometimes you've got to specifically go out of your way to get into trouble. It's called fun. (Robin Williams).
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Blackout
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You're only task is to be who you truly are. This is the only way to be of any service to others. It is not your task to get in someone's head a fix them or be what they think you should be. You can only think for you, and they can only think for them, so stop worrying about it. People play all these 'control' games. If my _______ only did this I would be happy, or if he or she did ________ I would be happy.
Be happy and follow your own joy, and then share that with others as you see fit, as you can, in being you. Of course, it is good to share joy with others, but you don't need to get raped by emotional vampires either.
You can tell the difference by how you feel inside when you are around someone. If you are constantly feeling shitty and drained when around a person, it is probably best to remove yourself from that person.
-------------------- You are not your job, your titles, your possessions, your degrees, your lovers, your relationships, your place of residence, your social security number, your ID, your bills, your worries, your bank account, your age or your body. You are the timeless being that created & perceives itself through those things, and you have the power to play or not play that game. When someone asks me "what do you do?" looking for some title to pin me down, I laugh and say "EVERYTHING!" - Blackout
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Yvette38
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This still does not satisfy my curiosity about seeing things from another's point of view. When we need to compromise with someone (emotional vampires included) we have to somehow agree that their and our perspectives are both relevant. Some individuals brains are wired to be in charge and make decisions, however some of these people have trouble letting others in the decision making process. To others this is ludicrous, they think the more options the better. Can we temporarily rewire our brains to think like someone else so we can better understand where they are coming from? (Not agree so much as understand so it reduces fighting) I have had the displeasure of truly "feeling" someone else's fear and I could not understand how they could live like that and not go completely insane. Why do people fear so many different things? We each have our own but when we look at others' fears we sometimes think they are silly things to be afraid of....but from their perspective it is a very serious fear. In helping others with their fears should we be a crutch and understand their fears and work around them or should we point them out and help them to come to terms with it? Can we really help someone or is it something they internally have to work out for themselves? Oh, and how many questions can I ask in one post? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
-------------------- Sometimes you've got to specifically go out of your way to get into trouble. It's called fun. (Robin Williams).
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Blackout
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Because we are all one - but the others in your quantum reality are your version. Respect their wishes by leaving their path. Be yourself... if any choice represses self you will feel crappy.
Don't tread on others free will, don't try and make them change, connect with those who vibrate of like mind to construct powerful manifestations, connect with polar opposites to grow - but then move on.
-------------------- You are not your job, your titles, your possessions, your degrees, your lovers, your relationships, your place of residence, your social security number, your ID, your bills, your worries, your bank account, your age or your body. You are the timeless being that created & perceives itself through those things, and you have the power to play or not play that game. When someone asks me "what do you do?" looking for some title to pin me down, I laugh and say "EVERYTHING!" - Blackout
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Yvette38
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I see a little better now, but I believe my true fear is I am so afraid of what others think that I believe there to be only 2 options....I try to fit in and be like them or I try to change their perspectives to be like mine. I fear when I don't choose one or the other I will be completely alone, physically and mentally. I went to a HS football game the other day. I feel nothing about football, not good/bad just does nothing for me. I went to take 2 of my children who are very social and into the whole school spirit, we are all together in our support for our team...blah, blah, blah. I sat and read a book for 3 hours in the stands. I could look around me and see all of these people laughing, talking, cheering. At first I felt out of place and almost put my book down out of guilt, after all, how does it look if you go to a game and pay no attention to it, do they think I am being rude, unsupportive? But I knew I was happier reading my book and could enjoy their happiness in loving this game. Where I feel true conflict is any time I am given a choice I feel obligated to react quickly and know what the "right" choice is. When I slow down and process my options, no matter how much mental turmoil there is, I usually come to a decision that makes me feel at peace. So next time I am in line at a fast food place and am given choices I might just sit down and meditate on the answer, not caring who in line behind me gets pissed off. Thank you Blackout, as usual you help me sort out my chaotic mind.
-------------------- Sometimes you've got to specifically go out of your way to get into trouble. It's called fun. (Robin Williams).
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Yvette38
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Beyond our ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about. Ideas, language, even the phrase 'each other' doesn't make sense any more.
Jelaluddin Rumi in Coleman Barks The Essential Rumi (Haper San Franscisco, 1995,) p. 36
-------------------- Sometimes you've got to specifically go out of your way to get into trouble. It's called fun. (Robin Williams).
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Blackout
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Football is for retards,
But don't be judging.
Seriously, unless you are actually playing, I have never seen a bigger group of retards get so insane about a game of getting a ball past a bunch of guys on steroids get people so excited.
I mean, it's fun to play a little with friends, or cheer you son or friend, but that's about the extent of it. It supposed to be fun.
People go crazy and punch each other out over teams wining and losings - teams - names that mean nothing with constant changing people. It's like someone beating someone up because they said Alvin and the Chipmunks were better than Menudo.
In truth, you have grasped that duality is simply a mind trick to allow form - but what is screwy in the poem in that he is lying in the grass in this formless place... grass needs duality.... otherwise it would be immovable and it would be like lying on razor blades...
I am reading a course in miracles now and I like a lot of it, but it keeps on saying that this world is a 'mistake' of the ego and not god's doing or fault which seems silly to me since everything is God. Supposedly God made Jesus and Jesus said hmmmm I wonder if... and boom the mistake of the world came and endless division and infinity from one - but I say that's fun, once you realize it - you can be the one, or the individual, or both at the same time... I mean.. if heaven is just eternal formless peace, that's nice for a while (but there is no time there so how long is a while) but we must have made this dream for a reason, it just got a bit out of control, but once you know it's a dream you can relax, just like you relax wen you wake up from a nightmare - it doesn't concern you anymore.
-------------------- You are not your job, your titles, your possessions, your degrees, your lovers, your relationships, your place of residence, your social security number, your ID, your bills, your worries, your bank account, your age or your body. You are the timeless being that created & perceives itself through those things, and you have the power to play or not play that game. When someone asks me "what do you do?" looking for some title to pin me down, I laugh and say "EVERYTHING!" - Blackout
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Yvette38
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But it is the "soul" lying down in the grass....if the soul is formless it joins the grass, becomes the grass....i think i need to smoke the grass. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
-------------------- Sometimes you've got to specifically go out of your way to get into trouble. It's called fun. (Robin Williams).
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Blackout
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The soul both is the grass and is lying down in it and is neither all at the same thrice time.
-------------------- You are not your job, your titles, your possessions, your degrees, your lovers, your relationships, your place of residence, your social security number, your ID, your bills, your worries, your bank account, your age or your body. You are the timeless being that created & perceives itself through those things, and you have the power to play or not play that game. When someone asks me "what do you do?" looking for some title to pin me down, I laugh and say "EVERYTHING!" - Blackout
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Blackout
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That was good.
Pretty dang funny. Love those brits.
-------------------- You are not your job, your titles, your possessions, your degrees, your lovers, your relationships, your place of residence, your social security number, your ID, your bills, your worries, your bank account, your age or your body. You are the timeless being that created & perceives itself through those things, and you have the power to play or not play that game. When someone asks me "what do you do?" looking for some title to pin me down, I laugh and say "EVERYTHING!" - Blackout
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